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A Change is Gonna Come

Posted by Andy D. on October 21, 2008

Seal released a timely new video cover of the 60’s civil rights theme of Sam Cooke’s, “A Change is Gonna Come.”

For you freethinkers, there is a great agnostic line in the lyrics: “It’s been too hard living, but I’m afraid to die. I don’t know what’s up there beyond the sky.”

Here is today’s up-to-date polling from a fascinating and fun website intrade. Yes, you may trade the election.

I wouldn’t bet on Sen. McCain and yet I am saddened that we probably won’t be giving Indiana’s 11 electoral votes to Sen. Barack Obama.  I do remember a couple weeks back that Indiana was leaning blue which surprised the heck out of me so maybe it is tighter than this.  Who knows?

What I am certain of is that I will not underestimate the right-wing talk radio for the rest of the election.  I bet it gets very ugly because they are desperate and McCain/Palin are not running a consistent message.  The ad hominem unpatriotic attacks are all around and I think this may be the year that America has had enough of swift boating and voter scandals.  Palin is saying there are pro-America types of states and small towns.  So city people in blue states are not American?  America is smarter than that.  McCain’s choice of Palin is what took my vote off the table.  If McCain had chosen Sen. Joe Lieberman that would have been “mavericky” and impressed me.  Instead he chose Palin’s decisiveness and it is politics as usual.  McCain made a deal with the religous right to give them their judges even though I don’t think he is all that religious. Could you image if it was Thompson or Huckabee running now?  Even McCain would be an improvement over Bush and his anti-science politics.  Yet, could you imagine Palin as President?  Yikes!

One can be pro-business, pro-science, pro-civil liberties and be a moderate Republican.  Science education is the most important tool for innovation and we need to invest in it and fight the Religious Right’s anti-intellectualism campaign.  We need another space race like what happened when Sputnik launched which killed the creation science movement.  It is one thing to be ignorant but it is something much worse to be proud of it.

Fiscal conservatives are great such as Sandra Day O’Connor and Barry Goldwater.   These types need to take the Republican party back from these power hungry religious types who want to legislate their beliefs on everyone if they ever want to get my vote again.  How unpatriotic!  Too many of our young men and women have died for all of us to have freedom of conscience.  We need to deal with the “actual” problems on this material earth.  You know the one we all agree exists!  Let’s send a message to the far right kooks that America is not going to take it anymore.  Even if we cannot win Indiana (which there is still a chance) let’s send a LOUD message through the popular vote to the James Dobsons (who surprise, surprise, flip-flopped  on McCain) that enough is enough.

I will say Barack is an interesting mix between JFK and Barry Goldwater and he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago which is Milton Friedman’s shareholder is everything economics.  He knows how important the market is.  He ran the Harvard Law Review with Federalist Society people (who think the post-Civil War 14th Amendment was a mistake and most decisions should be state’s rights) and he survived.  He didn’t play favorites in that position like others thought he would.  That is 180 degrees different than Bush or Palin and he doesn’t surround himself with yes men.  He has left and right leaning economic policies and here is a great article explaining it.  For you fiscal conservative moderate Republicans, it’s Ok, the water is fine. The economy will be fine under Democrats.  It certainly cannot do as bad as Bush and his failed kingdom presidency.  Please, get out and vote!

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6 Responses to “A Change is Gonna Come”

  1. dystressed said

    Finally a Seal song that doesn’t make me wish I were deaf.

    I plan on going as Sandra Day O’Connor for Halloween. BTW, she’s part of IPFW’s Omnibus Lecture Series.

    She totally would have made a better nominee than McCain, except she’s even older than he is. Darn.

  2. andyscathouse said

    Yeah, the song is different than his usual, but I fully admit I like Seal. Stone me. I am a fan on facebook and they sent me the link.

    When is Sandra speaking at IPFW? The Sandra costume will scare those neo-cons!

  3. We need another space race like what happened when Sputnik launched which killed the creation science movement.

    What?

    I will say Barack is an interesting mix between JFK and Barry Goldwater and he taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago which is Milton Friedman’s shareholder is everything economics.

    What?

  4. Wait… Wasn’t it Andy that said we shouldn’t do politics except when it gets all religiousy?

    There’s nothing skeptical or freethoughty about the following:

    “Fiscal conservatives are great such as Sandra Day O’Connor and Barry Goldwater”

    I don’t know about O’Connor but Goldwater was practically Libertarian in his fiscal conservatism even to the point of actively opposing the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

    Plus Bush’s foreign policy is basically a regurgitation of Goldwater’s hardline foreign policy. Except Bush uses his big stick to poke at Iran and Iraq, Goldwater wanted to poke his stick at the Soviet Union in ’60s. Goldwater = meh.

    “For you fiscal conservative moderate Republicans, it’s Ok, the water is fine. The economy will be fine under Democrats. It certainly cannot do as bad as Bush and his failed kingdom presidency. Please, get out and vote!”

    I don’t know where to begin, oh i know, how about

    Fiscal conservative = compassionate conservate = meaningless = FAIL

    “Let’s send a message to the far right kooks that America is not going to take it anymore. Even if we cannot win Indiana (which there is still a chance)”

    We?

    ———-

    These are purely “value-based” political opinions and are not grounded (or only barely so) in skepticism and freethought… As I believe mightymjolnr recently commented offline, “You should start a blog”.

    Not trying to be a dick but this just strikes me as off-topic

  5. andyscathouse said

    Skep,

    I am not saying I agree with everything Barry Goldwater or Sandra Day O’Connor did or supported. I am however trying to make the distinction between pro-business libertarian and moderate republicans from the far religious right. That has been the main political war in states like Kansas. It tore it apart. Moderate business friendly small government republicans are called liberals and democrats just for being pro-choice.

    That is freethought enough and I don’t need another blog for it so don’t get your liberal panties in a bind and in case you haven’t noticed the left is trying everything it can to reach out to these business types which would be a huge improvement.

    The religious right and their backlash mentality that “society is decaying” has led the values vote. The religous right “values” vote basically gave those very Hollywood liberal celebrities they hate a tax break! I am not saying the religous right makes sense but they vote against their own ideals and economics interests and it completely keeps America for having a logical secular political debate.

    Could you imagine if we only had political disagreements on only secular issues and not have the far religous right using religion as a wedge to short cut around reason?

    As far as the JFK and Goldwater comparison read the NY times article on Barack’s economics plan that I linked to at the bottom.

    The space race is what shut down the creation science movement at the time. We became serious about real science education during that period and school boards kicked most of that nonsense out on their own. I am not saying ID is dead and hasn’t sprung back. I am just saying what happened. It was a different time. And to bring it back around to moderate republicans science education is good for business.

    I am sorry my original post wasn’t as clear. But I appreciate your feedback to help clear up my thoughts….

  6. andyscathouse said

    http://www.intrade.com/ has Indiana leaning blue today! (10-23). (Who knows what it will be on election day?) It is tight. I saw that Gov. Palin might come to town. I bet we hear more from both campaigns.

    I received a orange post card from the NRA endorsing Mark Souder with the slogan freedom first. Yeah, Souder how about freedom of reproductive rights, homosexual rights, and science?

    Of course factcheck.org has something to say about the claims that NRA ad which Souder is pushing….
    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_rifle_associations_true_story.html

    (I disagree with Obama on some gun control issues but it is not the country’s central concern right now and I am proud gun owner). I heard Joe Biden say he will defend gun rights, too.

    I won’t be voting for Souder due to his appearance as an anti-science creationist in Ben Stein’s Expelled propaganda movie and his wasting of time and money on the Richard Sternberg’s manufactured claim he was fired when he wasn’t even hired to begin with…. A man of Souder’s influence should know better and stay away from nuts at the Discovery Institute yet he is in bed with them. He certainty doesn’t represent me and I am in his district..

    The most telling thing of all on this post card is it DOESN’T contain the word REPUBLICAN. That screams how desperate the brand is…. and/or on second thought the NRA may be nonpartisan.

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